singing that song. And some people started to clapping. And you know all of a sudden the beauty of that song left me and you know what I was sittin there thinking “my life is (clap), in you (clap) Lord (clap). Here comes the bread (clap) now take a bite. Now there’s the juice and wash it down now (much laughter from the audience). Was it wrong? It was probably wrong for me to think thata way, you know, but it kinda hit me that way all of a sudden. And I was uncomfortable with it. You know I’m not going to throw the baby out with the bath water and say you know you know we don’t need to, we don’t need to do any of that.
(Tom mutters - it’s indiscernible.)

But I just say that there are always circumstances where even people like me whom I’ve told you before I’m gonna be on the clappin side of heaven. You know I’m gonna, if you want to look me up when we’re there, you know, if there’s anybody around there acting like they’re havin’ fun I’m gonna be right in the middle of um. That’s where to go. And, and uh, there are even things that make us feel uncomfortable. We don’t have the right to expect that people are not goin’ to be uncomfortable. --- Um --- Um, - m - m - m --- comfortable.

13. (Not scriptural, little by little, slowly, and something behind what we were doing, teach and teach and teach and teach.)

That’s where we’re goin’ to end. We don’t ever need to tell somebody just get over it. Just get over it. Sometimes I’d like to say that, you know don’t you sometimes don’t you want to say, just get over it. But you can’t say that. We don’t ever have the right to be insensitive. But discomfort comes about, why? Discomfort comes about with a idea that worship service should make us leave feeling what ? --- comfortable and you know that’s not necessarily scriptural but, where does that go back to? But how are we going to get over the idea that our worship services should leave make us feeling comfortable? It’s not going to come about unless we’re teaching people about it. Unless we are teaching people that the things we are doing involving banners and praise teams and all these things are to bring the lost to Christ to become more like Him. It’s about edification to each other. It’s about evangelism.

And aren’t there things we can do that would turn a group of people in a declining membership around that are not scriptural, that would make the word more attractive to other people. Is it goin’ to happen over night? No. It didn’t happen in here over night. We sang with a jukebox for 7 months, before we ever got a song leader. And we sang songs most of them didn’t they involved spirited singing but that was about it. And then you know we added songs in there. Keith did. A few people started clapping and others did. And it was a thing that just come about and it came little by little but you know what, in the meantime this class grew. And you know how many people we kept on board because we kept weeks and weeks and 5 months of talking about it and we introduced things slowly. And we had a purpose. And there was something behind what we were doin’ and we taught about it. And I go back to teach and teach and teach and teach and you know for those of us who constantly like new things and are pushing the edge, there are things I need to remember and this is where I want to close.

14. (End, death, loss, grieving, closing a door, moving in another direction.)

That the beginning of something with somebody is always the end of something for somebody else. And you know what end is. End is death in some cases. Ends is a loss. end is ---- grieving. End is closing a door on something and moving in another direction.

And when I start using the praise teams and the --- banners and the ---, and all of this, and I’m wrapped in that and I like it and, and you know, and, and I feel closer to God when I do it. And, and I’m all enthused about it, what I forget is there’s the people out there who haven’t been in on the planning and the praying and the knowing and the experiencing it little by little and the little grandmother that says, "you mean the services that I grew up here for 55 years --- they’re not here any more?" ---- And the dad who says, "my kids, I raised um here, it just doesn’t seem the same." And Mary sits at the back you know or in the middle and she says, "you know Tom, they took Face To Face out of these books."--- And I want to say YES, YES but look at what they